In this episode of CXO Secrets, David McClelland sits down with Ryan Preece, Deputy CTO at The King’s Trust, for a compelling conversation on moral courage, mission-driven leadership, and building technology that is “good enough” to create real-world impact. Together, they explore the unique challenges of leading technology in the third sector, from modernising decades-old systems to right-sizing capabilities in a resource-constrained environment. Ryan shares candid insights from his journey across the MOD, HMRC, RNLI, and now The King’s Trust - highlighting why moral courage, not tech expertise, is often the most critical leadership trait. From navigating the tension between financial prudence and mission-first decisions, to preparing young people for an AI-enabled job market, this episode reveals why effective leadership isn’t about perfection - it’s about clarity, purpose, and doing what truly matters.